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What the Bible says about Muhammad (SAW) - Part 2
This is the second part of an abridged version of a discussion between Ahmed Deedat and a priest in South Africa during the apartheid years where he sought to get the views of a Christian priest on whether or not the Bible says anything about the prophet of Islam, Muhammad (SAW). Part One can be found at http://jihadforjannah.tumblr.com/post/82466039318/part1
Deedat: Therefore Jesus is not like Moses! But dominee (Afrikaans word for priest), these are not hard facts, solid facts, tangible facts; they are mere matters of belief over which the little ones can stumble and fall. Let us discuss something very simple, very easy, that if your little ones are called in to hear the discussion, would have no difficulty in following it, shall we?
Priest: [Indicated that he was happy with the suggestion]
Deedat: Moses had a father and a mother. Muhammad also had a father and a mother. But Jesus had only a mother, and no human father. Is this true?
Deedat: Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, bt Muhammad is like Moses! Moses and Muhammad were born in the normal, natural course, i.e. the physical association of man and woman; but Jesus was created by a special miracle. You will recall that we are told in the gospel of St Matthew ch1 v18 “…Before they came together (Joseph the Carpenter and Mary) she was found with child by the Holy Ghost.” And St Luke tells us that when the good news of the birth of a holy son was announced to her, Mary reasoned, “…how shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the Angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the highest shall overshadow thee…” (Luke ch1 v35). The Holy Qur’an confirms the miraculous birth of Jesus in a nobler and sublimer [sic] terms. In answer to her logical question, “O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?” The angel says in reply, “Even so, Allah createth what He willeth. When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, Be, and it is!” (Qur’an ch3 v47). It is not necessary for God to plant a seed in man or animal. He merely wills it and it comes into being. This is the Muslim conception of the birth of Jesus. (When I compared the Qur’anic and Biblical versions of the birth of Jesus to the head of the Bible Society in our largest city, and when I enquired as to which version would he prefer to give his daughter, the Qur’anic or the Biblical version, the man bowed his head and answered, “The Qur’anic.”) Is it true that Jesus was born miraculously as against the natural birth of Moses and Muhammad?
Deedat: Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammad is like Moses. Moses and Muhammad married and begot children, but Jesus remained a bachelor all of his life. Is this true?
Deedat: Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammad is like Moses. Moses and Muhammad were accepted as prophets by their people in their own lifetime. No doubt the Jews gave endless trouble to Moses and they murmured in the wilderness. But as a nation, they acknowledged that Moses was a messenger of God sent to them. The Arabs too made Muhammad’s life impossible. He suffered very badly at their hands. After 13 years of preaching in Makkah, he had to emigrate from the city of his birth. But before his demise, the Arab nation as a whole accepted him as the Messenger of Allah. But according to the Bible, “He (Jesus) came unto his own, but his own received him not” (John ch 1 v11). And even today, after two thousand years, his people - the Jews as a whole - have rejected him. Is this true?
Deedat: Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammad is like Moses. Moses and Muhammad were prophets as well as kings. By prophet I mean a man who receives Divine Revelation for the guidance of man, and this guidance he conveys to God’s creatures as received without any addition or deletion. A king is a person who has the power of life and death over his people. It is immaterial whether the person wears the crown or not, or whether he was ever addressed as king or monarch. If the man has the prerogative of inflicting capital punishment, he is a king. Moses possessed such a power. Do you remember the Israelite who was found picking up firewood on Sabbath Day and Moses stoned him to death? (Numbers ch 15 v36). There are other crimes also mentioned in the Bible for which capital punishment was inflicted on the Jews at the behest of Moses. Muhammad too, had the power of life and death over his people. There are instances in the Bible of persons who were given gift of prophecy only, but they were not in a position to implement their directives. Some of these holy men of God who were helpless in the face of stubborn rejection of their message were the prophets Lot, Jonah, Daniel, Ezra, and John the Baptist. They could only deliver the message, but could not enforce the law. The holy prophet Jesus unfortunately also belonged to this category. The Christian gospel clearly confirms this - when Jesus was dragged before the Roman governor Pontius Pilate, charged for sedition, Jesus made a convincing point in his defence to refute the false charges. Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews. But know my kingdom is not from hence.” (John ch18 v36). this convinced Pilate (a pagan) that though Jesus might not be in full possession of his mental faculty, he did not strike him as being a danger to his rule. Jesus claimed a spiritual kingdom only; in other words, he only claimed to be a prophet. Is this true?
Deedat: Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammad is like Moses. Moses and Muhammad brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Moses not only gave the Ten Commandments to the Israelites, but a very comprehensive ceremonial law for guidance of his people. Muhammad comes to a people steeped in barbarism and ignorance. They married their step-mothers, they buried their daughters alive, drunkenness, idolatry, and gambling were the order of the day. Gibbon describes the Arabs before Islam in his ‘Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire’ as “the human brute, almost without sense, is poorly distinguished from the rest of the animal creation.” There was hardly anything to distinguish between man and animal of the time. They were animals in human form. From this abject barbarism, Muhammad elevated them, in the words of Thomas Carlysle, “into torch-bearers of light and learning. To the Arab nation it was a birth from darkness into light. Arabia first became alive by means of it. A poor shepherd people, roaming unnoticed in its deserts since the creation of the world. See, the unnoticed becomes world notable, the small has grown world-great. Within one century afterwards Arabia was at Granada on one hand and at Delhi on the other glancing at valour and splendour, and the light of genius, Arabia shines over a great section of the world…” The fact is that Muhammad gave his people a law and order they never had before. As regards Jesus, when the Jews felt suspicious of him that he might be an impostor with designs to pervert their teachings, Jesus took pains to assure them that he had not come with a new religion - no laws and no new regulations. I quote his own words, “Think not that I am come to destroy but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in now wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” (Matthew ch 5 v17-18). In other words, he had not come with any new laws or regulations. He came only to fulfil the old law. This is what he gave the Jews to understand - unless he was speaking with the tongue in his cheek trying to bluff the Jews into accepting him as a man of God and by subterfuge trying to ram a new religion down their throats. No! This messenger of God would never resort to such foul means to subvert the religion of God. He himself fulfilled the laws. He observed the commandments of Moses, and he respected the Sabbath. At no time did a single Jew point a finger at him to say, “Why don’t you fast”, or, “why don’t you wash your hands before you break bread”, which charges they always levied against his disciples, but never Jesus. This is because as a good Jew he honoured the laws of the prophets who preceded him. In short, he had created no new religion and had brought no new law like Moses and Muhammad. Is this true?
Deedat: Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammad is like Moses. Both Moses and Muhammad died natural deaths, but according to Christianity, Jesus was violently killed on the cross. Is this true?
Deedat: Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammad is like Moses. Moses and Muhammad both lie buried in earth, but according to you, Jesus rests in heaven. Is this true?
Deedat: Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammad is like Moses. Dominee, so far what I have done is to prove only one point out of the whole prophecy - that is proving the phrase ‘like unto thee’ - ‘like you’ - ‘like Moses’. The prophecy is much more than this single phrase which reads as follows, “I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren like unto thee…”. Moses and his people, the Jews, are here addressed as a racial entity, and as such their ‘brethren’ would undoubtedly be the Arabs. You see, the Holy Bible speaks of Abraham as the ‘Friend of God’. Abraham had two wives - Sarah and Hagar. Hagar bore Abraham a son - his first born - and Abraham called his son’s name, which Hagar bore, Ishmael. (Genesis ch16 v15) ‘And Abraham took Ismael his son’. (Genesis ch17 v23) ‘And Ishmael his son was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin’. (Genesis ch17 v25) Up to the age of thirteen Ishmael was the only son and seed of Abraham when the covenant was ratified between God and Abraham, God grants Abraham another son through Sarah, named Isaac, who was very much the junior to his brother Ishmael. If Ishmael and Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then they are brothers. And so the children of the one are the brethren of the other. The children of Isaac are the Jew and the children of Ishmael are the Arabs - so they are brethren to one another. The Bible affirms, “and he (Ishmael) shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren”.
What the Bible says about Muhammad (SAW) - Part 1
This is an abridged version of a discussion between Ahmed Deedat and a priest in South Africa during the apartheid years where he sought to get the views of a Christian priest on whether or not the Bible says anything about the prophet of Islam, Muhammad (SAW). This is how the conversation went.
Deedat: What does the Bible say about Muhammad?
Deedat: Why nothing? According to your interpretation the Bible has so many things to say about the rise of Soviet Russia and about the Last Days, and even about the Pope of the Roman Catholics?
Priest: Yes, but there was nothing about Muhammad!
Deedat: Why Nothing? Surely this man who had been responsible for the bringing into being a worldwide community of millions of believers who, on his authority, believe in the miraculous birth of Jesus (pbuh), that Jesus is the Messiah, that he [Jesus] gave life to the dead by God’s permission, and that he healed those born blind and the lepers by God’s permission. Surely this book (the Bible) must have something to say about this great leader of men who spoke so well of Jesus and his mother Mary?
Priest: My son, I have been reading the Bible for the past 50 years, and if there was any mention of him, I would have known it.
Deedat: According to you, are there not hundreds of prophecies regarding the coming of Jesus in the Old Testament…
Priest: Not hundreds…
Deedat: …in the Old Testament regarding the coming of Jesus Christ, because the whole Muslim world has already accepted him without the testimony of any Biblical prophecy. We Muslims have accepted the de facto Jesus on the authority of Muhammad alone, and there are in the world today no less than 1,000,000,000 followers of Muhammad who love, respect, and revere this great messenger of God, Jesus Christ, without having the Christians to convince them by means of their Biblical dialectics. Out of thousands of prophecies referred can you please give me just a single prophecy where Jesus is mentioned by name? The term ‘Messiah’, translated as ‘Christ’, is not a name, but a title. Is there a single prophecy where it says that the name of the Messiah will be Jesus, and this his mother’s name will be Mary, that his supposed father will be Joseph the Carpenter, and that he will be born in the reign of Herod the King, etc. etc.? No! There are no such details! Then how can you conclude that those thousands of prophecies refer to Jesus?
Priest: You see, prophecies are word-picture of something that is going to happen in the future. When that thing actually comes to pass, we see vividly, in these prophecies the fulfilment of what had been predicted in the past.
Deedat: What you actually do is that you deduce, you reason, you put two and two together.
Deedat: If this is what you have to do with a thousand prophecies to justify your claim with regards to the genuineness of Jesus, why should we not adopt the very same system for Muhammad?
Priest: [Agreed that it was a fair proposition, a reasonable way of dealing with the problem]
Deedat: [Asked the priest to open the Bible to Deuteronomy, chapter 18, verse 18 and started reciting from memory] “I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.” To whom does this prophecy refer?
Deedat: Why Jesus? His name is not mentioned here?
Priest: Since prophecies are word-pictures of something that is going to happen in the future, we find that the wordings of this verse adequately describes him. You see, the most important words of this prophecy are “like unto thee” - LIKE YOU - like Moses. And Jesus is like Moses.
Deedat: In which way is Jesus like Moses?
Priest: In the first place, Moses was a Jew, and Jesus was also a Jew. Secondly, Moses was a Prophet and Jesus was also a Prophet. Therefore Jesus is like Moses and that is exactly what God had foretold Moses.
Deedat: Can you think of any other similarities between Moses and Jesus?
Priest: [Indicated that he could not think of any]
Deedat: If these are the only two criteria for discovering a candidate for this prophecy of Deuteronomy ch18 v18, then in that case the criteria could fit any of the following Biblical personages after Moses - Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachai, John the Baptist, etc. because they were also ALL Jews as well as prophets. Why should we not apply this prophecy to any of these other prophets and why only to Jesus? Why should we make fish of one and fowl of the other?
Priest: [No reply offered]
Deedat: You see, my conclusions are that Jesus is most unlike Moses, and if I’m wrong, I would like you to correct me. In the first place, Jesus is not like Moses because according to you, Jesus is god, but Moses is not god. Is this true?
Deedat: Therefore Jesus is not like Moses. Secondly, according to you, Jesus died for the sins of the worlds, but Moses did not have to die for the sins of the world. Is this true?
Deedat: Therefore Jesus is not like Moses. Thirdly, according to you, Jesus went to hell for three days, but Moses did not have to go there. Is this true?